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Offset Pit or Reverse flow
I am thinking of building a Reverse Flow Smoker but I'm kinda stuck. We have always built and used Offset Pits. My build will be 48"x24"x1/4" Pit with a 22"x24"x3/8" Firebox. I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of the Reverse flow. Thanks guys and LET THE DEBATE BEGIN. . .
02-24-2012 12:44 AM
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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
In my opinion your initial statement of "Offset Pit or Reverse flow" should read "Offset AND Reverse flow". They actually work together. The Offset provides the best indirect cooking and the Reverse flow, allows for constant and even heating left to right. Just my thoughts.

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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
I chose the reverse flow and bought a Lang 36" Patio. After many cooks (had it about 8 months), I'm still learning it's secrets but overall, I'm getting steady and pretty even temps at both ends of the smoker. Temps do differ 25-50 degrees between the bottom and removable top grate in this smoker (top grate being the higher temp). However, that makes it easier to cook low and slow on the bottom (250 degrees) and still be able to cook bite through skin chicken on the top grate (300 degrees). Overall, I'm very satisfied with the reverse flow design having suffered through a cheap (Charbroil) side box, standard flow stick burner with its fluxuating temps (especially in windy conditions) and higher temps on the side box side of the smoker. Hope this helps.
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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
I have always used SF pits. However we always build them with tuning plates so I can have radiant heat and help solve the issues with it being too hot on entry from the firebox. But my thoughts are that I can create hotspots if needed. I'm at a spot in my build were I can go one way or the other. I wish I had an RF close by to watch run that would help a bunch .
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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
You can visit the Lang site to see several videos of their reverse flow smokers in action here: http://langbbqsmokers.com/. I plan to try out a Myron Mixon brisket recipe tomorrow on my Lang if you want to drop by in the a.m. (PM me).
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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
I don't know where close by is to you. I'm in Taylorsville and have a Lang 60. Also interested why you picked a UP container train picture for your profile.

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(02-25-2012 03:59 PM)Larry Jacobs Wrote:  I don't know where close by is to you. I'm in Taylorsville and have a Lang 60. Also interested why you picked a UP container train picture for your profile.
I live out in the Tremonton area. As far as the train as a profile picture I'm an engineer at Union Pacific..





I would love to come out and check out the Lang but I
Was busy all day on the build...my brother and I got the firebox mounted on the pipe and the door cut out and training installed. Monday maybe I'll have it on the cart. I'll upload some pics
Ha ha should have said (drain) installed...
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Nice start there!!! I'd totally go reverse flow with that. Can't wait to see more pics.

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Nice start there!!! I'd totally go reverse flow with that. Can't wait to see more pics.

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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
(02-24-2012 12:44 AM)in2dfire Wrote:  I am thinking of building a Reverse Flow Smoker but I'm kinda stuck. We have always built and used Offset Pits. My build will be 48"x24"x1/4" Pit with a 22"x24"x3/8" Firebox. I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of the Reverse flow. Thanks guys and LET THE DEBATE BEGIN. . .

You will have more freedom to tune you pit with tuning plates! Once you go reverse flow your stuck!! It is what it is!! Go with tuning plates then you have the BEST of both worlds!! I have seen reverse flows in action they still have a hot spot on firebox end. With plates you can control your hot spots!! MY Two Cents!!
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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
where did you get the that size round pipe to build your smoker with?

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(02-27-2012 07:34 AM)copytech0 Wrote:  where did you get the that size round pipe to build your smoker with?

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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
Well I have a reverse flow smoker and a smoker with tuning plates. My reverse flow has much much more even temp's over the whole cooking area.

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RE: Offset Pit or Reverse flow
(02-27-2012 12:56 PM)LH1440 Wrote:  Well I have a reverse flow smoker and a smoker with tuning plates. My reverse flow has much much more even temp's over the whole cooking area.

My pit Im showing on my profile is 80" long with tuning plates and I can get it between 5 and 10 deg from front to back door.. Then if i slam all the plates together i can cook in the upright. Just by moving the plates a little bit gives me control of my heat. You cant do that with a reverse flow. But hey I know guys that hate them reverse flows and guys that love them! So its all in what you like I guess.
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Just let me know what you need help with, You know where the restaurant is!
I can haul out the reverse flow any time you want to look at it.

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If reverse flow's can't do that I guess my reverse flow must be broke, cause the heat stays 5-10 degrees from front to back in mine....lol

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(02-27-2012 09:44 PM)Dutchovendude Wrote:  Just let me know what you need help with, You know where the restaurant is!
I can haul out the reverse flow any time you want to look at it.
What's the special tonight at the restaurant? I didn't know you were using a
RF. . I've looked at a bunch of them just never while they are actually cooking. However imfree2q is right that cooker he has in his profile does run that tight. We Cater on that one all the time. My dad tried to build a RF and what a mess that turned out to be. . . His fault though.

(02-27-2012 10:47 PM)LH1440 Wrote:  If reverse flow's can't do that I guess my reverse flow must be broke, cause the heat stays 5-10 degrees from front to back in mine....lol
I don't think anyone said your pit is broken. . How ever if you have a pit that has a cooking chamber of 84" not including upright and only have temp differences of 5-10 degrees that is pretty hard to beat. . I cook on it all the time. So I guess um answering my own question.
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(02-27-2012 10:47 PM)LH1440 Wrote:  If reverse flow's can't do that I guess my reverse flow must be broke, cause the heat stays 5-10 degrees from front to back in mine....lol

Is that pit on your avatar your pit? Is that a reverse flow upright? Looks nice!

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(02-28-2012 01:47 PM)imfree2q Wrote:  
(02-27-2012 10:47 PM)LH1440 Wrote:  If reverse flow's can't do that I guess my reverse flow must be broke, cause the heat stays 5-10 degrees from front to back in mine....lol

Is that pit on your avatar your pit? Is that a reverse flow upright? Looks nice!

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upright reverse flow?? Lol. Lol don't tell dad that he will have one built. . Lol. Lol
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(02-27-2012 06:44 AM)imfree2q Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 12:44 AM)in2dfire Wrote:  I am thinking of building a Reverse Flow Smoker but I'm kinda stuck. We have always built and used Offset Pits. My build will be 48"x24"x1/4" Pit with a 22"x24"x3/8" Firebox. I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of the Reverse flow. Thanks guys and LET THE DEBATE BEGIN. . .

You will have more freedom to tune you pit with tuning plates! Once you go reverse flow your stuck!! It is what it is!! Go with tuning plates then you have the BEST of both worlds!! I have seen reverse flows in action they still have a hot spot on firebox end. With plates you can control your hot spots!! MY Two Cents!!

Have any pictures of the tuning plates?
Thanks.
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No, the pic in my profile is not a reverse flow....lol

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(03-01-2012 11:20 AM)LH1440 Wrote:  No, the pic in my profile is not a reverse flow....lol

I know just having a little fun!! Sorry!!
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(03-01-2012 09:32 AM)sixb Wrote:  
(02-27-2012 06:44 AM)imfree2q Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 12:44 AM)in2dfire Wrote:  I am thinking of building a Reverse Flow Smoker but I'm kinda stuck. We have always built and used Offset Pits. My build will be 48"x24"x1/4" Pit with a 22"x24"x3/8" Firebox. I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of the Reverse flow. Thanks guys and LET THE DEBATE BEGIN. . .

You will have more freedom to tune you pit with tuning plates! Once you go reverse flow your stuck!! It is what it is!! Go with tuning plates then you have the BEST of both worlds!! I have seen reverse flows in action they still have a hot spot on firebox end. With plates you can control your hot spots!! MY Two Cents!!

Have any pictures of the tuning plates?
Thanks.
We haven't cut them yet to install. I got the pit on its cart today the tuning plates will be done last but I will try to keep filling this tread with photos of the build.


We have a pit complete and for sale posted in that section you can check out. this one will look just like it except this on will be 7" longer. I'm thinking I will just do this one as a Standard flow though. I'm having a hard time convincing myself to do a Reverse Flow. But I still have plenty of time yet to decide.
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